What does it mean to be a good friend? Why do we connect with certain people and not others? In this week's podcast episode, we interview KXAN’s Joe Barlow and musician Laura Lee Bishop, who have started a podcast called "Heavy Friending" to document the process of becoming friends.

From getting drunk together to becoming friends on Facebook, Barlow and Bishop are just at the beginning of the process, but they've made some pretty big leaps in just a few months. He attended her wedding; she asked him to be in her music video. It's a clear win, right? Not so fast, both of them say. Listen to their chat with hosts Addie Broyles and Tolly Moseley to find out why.